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April 21, 2008 

Free Corsica

I have to be honest, I had kind of thought China was somewhat humorless when it came to Tibet, but then here you are.


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65 Responses to “Free Corsica”

  1. UberAlex on April 21st, 2008 11:19 am

    The best thing about that is that Napoleon was from Corsica.

  2. jt on April 21st, 2008 12:52 pm

    Is the swastika the symbol for Buddhist temples or Nazism?

  3. Raoul on April 21st, 2008 12:55 pm

    Does Corsica want to be free?

  4. Marc Vicktor on April 21st, 2008 1:48 pm

    wow. who woulda thought.

  5. B on April 21st, 2008 1:55 pm

    I’ll take it!

    *ring*

    Hello France? I think I have something you want…

  6. applepie on April 21st, 2008 2:05 pm

    that was not funny! I laughed for no more than 60 seconds!

  7. emmanuel from france on April 21st, 2008 2:50 pm

    they can’t compare what can’t be compared ! what do they think ? France suffered from nazism and had to fight against it with her allies to be free. I’m furious to see that pic ! Grrrr ! France is not a perfect nation, but it’s far better than China. France hasn’t to kill Corses in order to Corsica to remain part of France. and in France, we can say whatever we want on the internet ! Nah ! Lemon faces ! (excuse my english)

  8. muny on April 21st, 2008 3:07 pm

    Funny, but only if France had installed their preferred spiritual leader of Corsica over the people’s natural and historical choice.
    The Corsicans may have grievances against France, sure, but I doubt if there’s any direct parallel to the issues standing twixt Tibet and China.

  9. bob on April 21st, 2008 4:03 pm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corsica#Politics
    Some do want to be independent

  10. caroaber on April 21st, 2008 4:55 pm

    Wow. The Chinese are calling the French hypocrites.
    I don’t see the need to call Joan of Arc a prostitute. That’s uncalled for.
    There is a separatist movement in Corsica, but it’s not anywhere near as bloody as Tibet’s.
    Still, ouch. That stings.

  11. Lester on April 21st, 2008 5:06 pm

    Does Corsica want independence? Hmmm, ok, lets switch it to Hawaii (which the U.S. took over at gun point in the 1890’s) or any of the Native American tribes (heard of the American Indian Movement of the late 1960’s-70’s? Didn’t they have a legitimate grievance?). I think we’d have no trouble finding some folks there who want independence.
    Oh well, let’s keep shrieking about China and Tibet… hypocrisy is a great American tradition and we need to uphold it.

  12. me on April 21st, 2008 5:29 pm

    Of course, if the Corsicans actually wanted to separate, they could hold a referendum and get on with it. France, unlike China, is an open society.

    Tibetans will never be given that opportunity.

  13. napoleon un, deux, o trois? on April 21st, 2008 5:37 pm

    “napoleon = pervert”

    they do realize that napoleon dynamite does not count, don’t they?

    while we’re at it though, free corsica, the basque country, northern ireland, sardinia, kosovo (oops, china supported serbia), catalonia, sicily, scotland and wales, palestine, kurdistan, abkhazia, baluchistan, kashmir, sinkiang (oops, china is occupying that, too), north korea (from itself), davao, east timur, quebec, cuba, oaxaca, darfur (oops again china!), burma (another oops!) and new jersey (we are neither nyc nor philly)! and that would still mean tibet is NOT free. i don’t grep the logic here.

    killing lots of monks != freedom marches on

  14. oh amazing on April 21st, 2008 8:31 pm

    France? The only thing that Franch people are different from the poor Chinese is that they are fooled in another way. People seem quite happy with what the media feed them.

  15. rgn on April 21st, 2008 8:40 pm

    je suis corse, et j’en suis fier!

  16. James Randy on April 21st, 2008 10:13 pm

    FAIL. That Chinese government needs to take LESS lessons from the Americans on how to fake spontaneous events. This reminds me of that tearing down of the saddam statue the US military orchestrated in 2003.

  17. fkfrcfc on April 22nd, 2008 12:39 am

    Wow that was pretty good. Should have more stuff like free Hawaii, California, Nuevo Mexico, Arizona, Texas. Free Islas Malvinas too!

  18. abanez on April 22nd, 2008 1:03 am

    There have been quite a number of Corsican Independence Movements.
    Violent corsican independence campaigns since the 1970s included bombings and a few assassination attempts,usually targeted at non-Corsicans, or buildings and officials representing the French government.Non-Corsican homeowners may be threatened with the destruction of their home, able to be avoided only through paying a ransom.

    It appears to me,Corsicans do want independence with this behavior.

  19. elvis on April 22nd, 2008 1:19 am

    Funny, but only if France had installed their preferred spiritual leader of Corsica over the people’s natural and historical choice.
    The Corsicans may have grievances against France, sure, but I doubt if there’s any direct parallel to the issues standing twixt Tibet and China.
    Agree with above

  20. Screw Tibet, Free European Nations on April 22nd, 2008 2:28 am

    Galiza, Breizh, the Basque Country, Occitane, Wales, Lombardia, Sardinia, Alba (Scotland), Walonia,… there are a lot of Europan State-less nations and no one cares about them… Why Tibet and not your own business?

    Sarkozy is an hypocrite. All national languages of France (Alsatian; Basque; Breton; Catalan; Corsican; Flemish; Franco-Provençal; Lorraine Franconian, Occitan…) are forbidden and a cultural genocide is on course.

  21. Fabien from France on April 22nd, 2008 1:12 pm

    Oh !! I’m from France from Languedoc… Even my dog wants independence because he’s an occitan dog… just Kidding… I don’t think that occitans (people from where I am) want independance and I’m pretty sure of that.
    And national languages are not forbidden in France ^^. We’we got a Breizh TV and an occitan one too, what a genocide…
    So stop telling us you fairy tales.
    I think that people in China are manipulated, so even if this picture is shocking I am not surprised. People in China know what government tells them

  22. Cooll from China on April 22nd, 2008 9:57 pm

    Oh !! I’m from China from Shanghai…Even my cat knows she is not manipulated,because she is a independence cat…. we all know government tell some lies .we can distinguish which is right which is wrong .nobody tell us anything, government just say to itself. REMEMBER any people any where never be downgrade. LOL

  23. Vit Zayder FR on April 23rd, 2008 2:17 am

    How funny to read people thoughts about France, speaking about a historical facts and current situation without knowing or even trying to learn the truth.
    Chinese people are right to be angry but I still think France is right to do and say what they say. There is no point in criticizing the little president of us to criticize the entire France. That the must be the first everybody agrees with this guy. And to compare Tibet to Corsica, I mean, that is so ridiculous, a thing that nobody abroad seems to know is that there never been bloody repression in Corsica and that it is not as if France occupies Corsica or Corsican independants have been fighting for a century !!!
    Legally, Corsica has already a special administration status and if only independance would have been something every corsican people wants, there would have already been a referendum.
    So stop being ridiculous ! I don’t think these people are manipulated, which means there just jerks who haven’t even tried to get good information about what they attack ! Consequently, they have no excuse !
    Finally, do you really think that Joan of Arc or Napoleon are still such strong symbols in France ?
    Argh ! Just look for information before saying anything ! You would avoid to be ridiculous in the face of the world !

  24. zekk67 on April 23rd, 2008 9:20 am

    Tibet cannot be separated from China. Whatever the West do is interfering with the country’s internal politics, nothing more. What’s more, you don’t see such aggression from Westerners when it comes to issues like Basque, Corsica or even Quebec. Why is it that Westerners are so willing to protest in support of Dalai terrorists? Simple. Anti-asian sentiments are fast rising in Western countries due to several reasons (Asian immigrants, rising Asian economy as compared to the West). When such a minor event happened, it became a channel for their frustration.
    Westerners use excuses like human rights blah blah blah. We all know the West have far worse violations (eg. Guantanamo) , so stop branding China this way. None of us negotiate with terrorists, so why should the West help terrorists instigated by Dalai?

  25. zekk67 on April 23rd, 2008 9:28 am

    To Fabien from France, similarly Tibet may not want independence at all. What you are seeing is what the media chooses for you to see, plus the sugarcoating. Such terrorist acts by Dalai, becomes some form of an independence movement, thanks to the media. The media wants us to think there is a majority of Tibet province citizens who wants to break away but in actual fact, there’s nothing more than a minority (Dalai terrorists and perhaps, cults like Falungong) at work.

  26. zekk67 on April 23rd, 2008 9:31 am

    lastly to Elvis. Stop mentioning Tibet as a separate entity from China. Tibet is part of China, you can’t change that and unless situations changed in the near future, I suggest you respect China’s sovereignty.

  27. Vit Zayder FR on April 23rd, 2008 1:49 pm

    @zekk67 : Ok if I follow your thoughts, Tibet is part of China. Ok, since when ? I mean bring us some historical proofs please ! Since the beginning, none of you try to prove or illustrate the fact that Tibet is a part of China. I am kind of sure that there was once a Tibet recongnized as a sovereign country. I know that Tibetans are an Chinese originated ethic group. That does not mean Chinese.
    Then just try to wash your ears or as we say in France : “Remove the shit in your eyes” ! Don’t speak about Basque or Corsican problems, what you say just proves your ignorance. I ask you to enlight my ignorance about Tibet with objective stuffs, do you want me to do the same for you ? You don’t even Corsica exists before France begin to stand against China in the Tibet question. So I am ready to respect China’s sovereignty but a 50-years occupation of an officially sovereign country, that’s not sovereignty, sorry. And just to begin your training, Corsica or the Basque region are not respectively French and French/Spanish since 50 years.

  28. Cooll from China on April 23rd, 2008 8:37 pm

    There are several movements on the island calling for some degree of Corsican autonomy from France, or even full independence. Generally speaking, autonomist proposals focus on the promotion of the Corsican language, more power for local governments, and some exemptions from national taxes in addition to those already applying to Corsica.

  29. Cooll from China on April 23rd, 2008 8:41 pm

    Some groups who claim to support Corsican independence have carried out a violent campaign since the 1970s that includes bombings and a few assassination attempts, usually targeting pieds-noirs and other non-Corsicans, or buildings and officials representing the French government.

  30. Cooll from China on April 23rd, 2008 8:47 pm

    From 1912 to 1950, Tibet gained de facto independence. In 1912 the 13th Dalai Lama unilaterally declared separation from China but two years later authorized the conclusion of the Simla Convention, in principle accepting Chinese suzerainty over Tibet.In 1951 the People’s Republic of China forced the Tibetan government to sign the Seventeen Point Agreement thus reintegrated Tibet. No nation has ever recognized Tibet as independent.[7][8]. The Dalai Lama, the head of the Tibetan government in exile, believes that in order for it to modernize, Tibet must remain within the People’s Republic of China.

  31. anti-gov on April 23rd, 2008 9:19 pm

    Tibetans in exile are bunch of ex-slave masters turning into terrorists. They don’t represent Tibet. Tibet was freed from their rein of slavery in 1959. We don’t want to be reined by the churchs, why do you think that the Tibetans want to be ruled by that bunch of fucking stupid violent monks.

  32. omg on April 23rd, 2008 10:33 pm

    there some stupid Frech everywhere

  33. Vit Zayder FR on April 24th, 2008 4:29 am

    @omg : Thank you for your analysis. Please try again later.
    @cooll: Thank you.I believe in your objectivity. So I have to make a mea culpa. You may be right when you say that people doesn’t really know the situation. And I am quite impressed by your knowledge about Corsica even if I’d like to add some hints. First, Corsica has already gained a particular political status and some economic modifications compared to the rest of French departments. Finally, I’d like to add that the violent independant groups are willing complete independance which is not the case of the rest of the independancy defenders and especially, the most part of the population is not pro-inependency.
    Then, anyway, I am still not sure the Chinese army use the best methods to cope with this situation. What is your point of view ?

  34. Vit Zayder FR on April 24th, 2008 4:57 am

    And then why does even a Tibet autonomy is out of the question ? I mean, even if everything you say about the past is true, it stopped 50 years ago that is what you say. So what about giving autonomy or independance to Tibet now you have “purified this country from its feudal system” as you say ?
    Or is there other less honorable reason for Tibet release ? One suggestion : Uranium.
    And again I would like you to give your point of view, COOLL from CHINA.

  35. godzz on April 24th, 2008 9:43 pm

    I am American Chinese, no way in my lifetime I will buy another item made in French, nor will I travel to any city there again.

  36. cooll from China on April 24th, 2008 11:42 pm

    Vit Zayder FR
    to ur first question: ur right ,I think Chinese army shoulda use more humanism methods to appease riot in tibet even though it will fosterage the rioters ambition. as you know China is not a democracy country but it get much open than the past. The westerns hostility criticism just arose nationalism of Chinese .recently many people in China begin to boycott French super market carrefour while I dont think it is a advisable method to give voice to France. I say to the objector I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it.

  37. Cooll from China on April 24th, 2008 11:52 pm

    And second
    this youtube video may answer ur other questions
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNqfFJRJj0o

  38. Cooll from China on April 25th, 2008 12:04 am

    forgot to say : most tibetans do not want independance just as corsican for corsica

  39. Vit Zayder FR on April 25th, 2008 4:23 am

    I knew that and heard Melenchon. I may agree with him. So you can see that every French guy is not a jerk.
    A lat word. No point in boycotting Carrefour. Most of the products sold in these supermarkets are made in China. That is your economy that you will hurt not French’s.

  40. puzzle on April 26th, 2008 12:18 am

    Why French want peopel in Tibet back into Serfdom?How many French have been to Tibet?Why they believe liar Dalai Lamar?

  41. dumenicu on April 28th, 2008 6:09 am

    FREE TIBET FREE CORSICA
    Il y a en vraiment qui se croient parfaits et irreprochables…. « nous on ne tue pas les corses… » Oui ! Aujourd’hui ! Vous tirez les dividendes des crimes de vos pères.
    Et oui pourquoi pas free corsica comme free Tibet.
    Et pourquoi pas des croix gammées sur le torchon des exacons; qu’est ce qui les différencient des nazis, ou des chinois, quand ils annexent unilatéralement, torturent, déportent, massacrent le tiers de la population de l’île (c’est le chiffre officiel de leur propre gouvernement réf: discours Rocard 1er ministre assemblée nationale printemps 1989), quand ils dévastent cette province, détruisent son identité, ruinent ses couvents franciscains (âme de la résistance) ferment son université pour 212 ans que font-ils de mieux que les chinois;
    Et quand a partir des années 1960 ils organisent la colonisation de peuplement de la Corse par leurs colons, leurs fonctionnaires, leurs troupes d’occupation (autant de flics et de soldats actuellement que sous l’occupation germano italienne) et leurs auxiliaires coloniaux à qui ils accordent plus complaisamment qu’ailleurs, le regroupement familial (ils ont fait pareil dans le pacifique avec les chinois et indochinois dans les années 60 pour faire capoter les referendums d’indépendance de Polynésie et Nouvelle Calédonie)
    Et oui, une balle française fait aussi mal à un basque, un corse, un kanak, un maori, un gwadloupéen etc. Qu’une balle chinoise à un tibétain.
    Je ne me fais aucune illusion sur la sincérité et la “spontanéité » de ces chinois, mais les français ne valent pas mieux qu’eux!
    Français ! Vous voulez vraiment défendre l’identité et la dignité des tibétains…
    Médecins, guérissez vous vous même, d’abord.

  42. Vit Zayder FR on April 29th, 2008 3:54 am

    C’est un debat sterile sur la Corse. Tu compares le Tibet et la Corse mais tu ne sais rien sur le Tibet ce qui te rend aussi stupide que les autres. Tes arguments sont ceux repetes encore et encore sur tous les forums de discussions pour l’independance corse. Tu condamnes mais ne cherche pas de solution autre que le sang. Tu fais des paralleles inutiles et infondes.
    J’espere seulement que tu ne representespas la majorite des independants corses. J’aime a croire que beaucoup d’entre eux se tuent le cerveau a trouver les bons moyens d’agir. Avec ton comportement, tu empeches toute possibilite d’evolution. Tu te fais juge et jury a la fois c’est insupportable.
    Refelchis a un moyen de faire avancer les choses !
    Certes medecins guerissez-vous vous meme mais n’essaie pas d’apprendre son metier a un medecin !
    Alors fais comme les exiles tibetains, pour la plupart d’anciens nobles et clercs esclavagistes et n’essaient surtout pas de voir le bon cote des choses. La Corse serait-elle tellement mieux sans la France ? Demande aux reunionnais ce qu’ils pensent de votre combat tu seras etonne !

  43. EDDY on May 2nd, 2008 12:02 pm

    FREE CORSICA. TRULY MAKE IT FREE.
    TAKE BACK CARREFOUR AND LANCOME
    PLS PLS GET THEM OUT OF HERE. AND STOP SPEAKING HEAVY NASAL LANGUAGE. I FEEL SICK OF IT AND IT’S LIKE SOMETHING STOPS THE BREATHING THRU YOUR NOSE. LOL.

  44. zi on May 3rd, 2008 3:38 am

    There are some thing that i want to tell Ftench people,Tibet is a part of China.Tibet will belong to China forever.

  45. from China on May 3rd, 2008 4:13 am

    I hope Corsica ‘ll have a referendum to decide its future,and then China firstly admit the result to be a formal country in UN. I STRONGLY support it.

    FREE CORSICA FOREVER

  46. Corsica for Corsicans on May 6th, 2008 9:18 pm

    It is not legitimate to compare Tibet and Corsica in every aspect. There is greater repression in Tibet but that should not remove the fact that Corsica is under French occupation. People refer to a referendum that was not conducted allowing Corsicans to vote for full independence. Free Corsica Nazione.

  47. zekk67 on June 24th, 2008 11:31 am

    The main point of my argument is, do not interfere in other countries’ affairs as it does not concern you, that is unless you prefer people to do the same to your country. Let China handle their own internal problems. Let the Dalai Lama incite more chaos in China. Let China deal with the Dalai terrorists. It has nothing to do with you. You westerners do not support terrorism, but yet if actions by ignorant people in the West are fueling Dalai Lama’s arrogance and encouraging him to incite more chaos? You cannot tolerate Osama for he is targeting Westerners, so Dalai’s terrorists targeting China is okay with you?

  48. iris on July 13th, 2008 4:26 pm

    For those who believe there is greater repression in Tibet in in Corsica, I have to remind you some facts:
    1. Corsica became part of France since 1769, while Tiber was united as part of China since 1279.
    2. People in Corsica speak French and pupils learn French in the school. Corsican is rarely used and has been listed by UNESCO as a language close to extinction. Actually the first thing the French did after invasion was to abolish the Corsica University. In Tibet autonomous region, pupils learn both Tibetan from the 1. year to the 12. year of school.
    3. The French government doesn’t recognize Corsican as a minority ethic group. Therefore people there don’t enjoy any privileges as minority. In China, the minority ethic group Tibetans enjoy several privileges just as being minority. They are exempt from family plan policy. And more over, they don’t need to pay tax to the government.
    4. Those who dared to fight for Corsica independence are considered as separatists. While those monk who wants to get theocracy back in Tibet was awarded by Nobel Prize (shame on Nobel Prize).

    However, interestingly, there are also similar aspects between Tibet and Corsica:
    Corsica was taken by the Italian troops during WWII. Tibet was invaded by British twice :once in 1888 once in 1903.

    Corsica is only an island, which makes up 4.1% of whole territory of France. The Tibet that Dalai wants is a quarter of China. If the noble French won’t let Corsica free, then please keep your fingers out of China’s own business.

  49. TZ on July 15th, 2008 2:15 pm

    If you want to compare Tibet with Corsica, you should tell us about :
    1) The destruction of almost all monasteries (more than 6000)
    2) Killing of religious people,
    3) Torture
    4) Killing people who try to escape, at the frontier
    5) One great leader, nobel prize of Peace, bashed every time he tries to have some constructive discuss with the government
    6) Everyday’s reeducation, pushing you against your friends, and your friends against you
    7) Destruction of the environment like, say, the holy lakes (used for nuclear plants refreshing, of course)
    8) Drugs being privatized by private companies of the “other side” (I don’t want to say “enemy”). Your own doctors are then deprived from using regular and traditionnal drugs.
    And many other things done to tibetans living in their invaded country.

    I’m trying to find these things done in Corsica but, sorry, I can’t find anything coming close.

  50. TZ on July 15th, 2008 2:16 pm

    One other thing : Tibet was not part of China, but linked with it by Mongolia. If you want to speak about Tibet being always a part of China, then go further and tell us about China being a part of Mongolia.

  51. Lei on July 29th, 2008 8:38 pm

    to TZ:

    Every Tibetan in exile insists Yuan history is not part of Chinese history. Just search ‘Chinese history’ on everywhere, and can you find one piece of news that Yuan is not included? Oh, your fellows also say Qing history is not part of Chinese history either. How hilarious? If it’s not, why did British return Hong Kong to PRC? Stop lying to yourself.

  52. Lei on July 29th, 2008 8:47 pm

    to Fabien from France

    Quote:’ I think that people in China are manipulated, so even if this picture is shocking I am not surprised. People in China know what government tells them’

    So tell me why Chinese in France, America, England also feel the same way as people in China? You know what, dude, people in China know the government and the media lie often and they can tell which is true and which is not. But, people in France always believe what the media say, especially related to a foreign nation.

  53. twrexx on July 31st, 2008 4:08 pm

    @ James Randy: wow. this has the most comments by far of any pic yet. I fond it funny how people find a way to tie in their jealousy and ignorance of the US into any political or quasi-political picture they come across.
    As a service member of the U.S. military myself, know that I was in Iraq, and we got tons more positive support than whatever leftist liberal newsmedia you follow–(that wasnt a “staged” event ).Also of not is the fact that the Iraqi prime minister can tell us to leave any time—we arent invading Iraq, contrary to driveby media proclaimations. We are there to train police, military, and civil personnel as well as rebuild and stabilize the country. The reason people are getting blown up over there is because of groups of people that dont like the power and suppression of those weaker than they taken away from them. You dont htink they would stop these terrorist attacks if we left Iraq do you? maybe you need to wake up from the dreamworld you live in.

    Its also funny how everyone in the world expects the US to mind thier own business—until they want help themselves.

    I’d love to know how good your German is too, because it would be alot better than it is now without help from the U.S.

  54. GC on August 6th, 2008 4:52 pm

    If there were to be a referendum on the tibet independence I think the tibetans would be disadvantaged. nowaday there are more chinese settlers in tibet than the tibetan. So can you westerners stop banging on about referendum????

    Set aside Corsica, let’s talk about gualoupe and St martinique and bloody Algeria. At least we didnt rob from these countries and gave nothing back. Also if it wasnt for the chinese government support during the 1920s to 30s tibet would have be invaded by the Russian or the Brtiish Indians, so can you stupid hippies wake up and smell the coffee!!!!!!!

    GC

  55. Bob on September 11th, 2008 6:36 am

    Wow this site seems to be full of chinese government trolls… Just the sort who would spread misinformation to try to justify injustifiable actions.

  56. chink on November 14th, 2008 2:43 am

    I agree with you *100%* Bob. How can a person truly be “free” unless he takes in everything the obviously politically, if not racially motivated Western media claims as the absolutely facts of the universe? How can a person who actually doesn’t believe in the misinformation spread by the racists in the West fearing the Yellow Peril be *not* brainwashed? How can a person actually agree with anybody but the government of the glorious Holy Empire of America and spread their version of the religion of “democracy”, “human rights” and God knows what else their philosophers invented centuries ago out of pure boredom?

    Heil America! Heil *freedom*! Glory to the Western media, the prophets that bring the ultimate truths to humanity! May the Lord bring death and destruction upon the nonbelievers who dare challenge us! Especially the fucking chinks! A men!

    …fuck you.

    Before any of you argue anymore, for the love of whatever the hell you believe in, look up some facts will ya? Tibet’s been part of China ever since the Yuan Dynasty. That’s an undeniable fact. And try looking up “Qing Dynasty” on Wikipedia. Notice how it somehow includes Tibet? And Outer Mongolia? And Taiwan? And don’t give me that crap about Tibet declaring independence after the fall of Qing. Can anyone simply separate from from his own country simply by expressing a wish independence? Why is Quebec still part of Canada then? Why is Texas part of the US then? And Hawaii? And Alaska? And…Corsica? And that’s not to mention the fact that the only other serious riot seen in Tibet was in the 1950s, was backed up CIA, and was organized by a few former Tibetan slaver masters who were the only ones benefitting from the Feudal-slavery system in place before China reclaimed Tibet.

    Ask a Tibetan, any non-aristocrat Tibetan…does he prefer slavery or communism that isn’t even really communism anymore?

    All in all, I see four reasons for the surprising amount of support for Tibetan independence, more so than in Tibet itself:

    1. Western ignorance and arrogance: that they cannot accept that a country run by non-Whites can challenge the American hegemony.

    2. Western government manipulation of the media: this has proven to be extremely common and unbelievably effective (ever notice how there’s really only one voice in the media about some important events? Like the Tibetan riots?)

    3. Western jealousy: that a country in Asia, once half-colonized by the European powers, can rise at an incredible pace in the last quarter century and be able to challenge, again, White hegemony over the globe.

    4. The ideological challenge China poses against the individualistic philosophies of the West: the mere fact that China has accomplished so much without having to resort to a Western political system may discredit the claim that democracy is the “best form of government”.

    I invite all Westerners who read this thread to seriously consider going to China for a visit: see if the government is truly as oppressive as the Western media has told you? Do the people truly hate the Communist Party as much as your media has claimed? See a true, undoctored China, and the facts will speak for themselves.

    And no, I don’t work for the Chinese government. Although I kind of wish I did get paid for this massive post…lol

  57. holly on November 30th, 2008 6:11 am

    what i have seen?stupid french!!!

  58. Chinese on December 10th, 2008 2:09 am

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Color_Flag

    Please refer to the link above from Wikipedia, which is about the Chinese national flag in 1912. This government was not established by Communist Party, and much earlier than 1950. The key excerpt is below:

    “When the government of the Republic of China was established on January 1, 1912, the “Five-Colored Flag” was selected by the provisional Senate as the national flag.”
    “a ‘Five-Colored Flag’ (五色旗, wǔ sè qí) (Five Races Under One Union flag) was used of five horizontal stripes representing the five major nationalities of China: the Han (red), the Manchu (yellow), the Mongol (blue), the Hui (white), and the Tibetan (black).”

    Notice that Tibetan (the black color), one of “the five major nationalities of China”, is on the national flag. Therefore, saying that before 1950 Tibet was independent simply does not make any sense. Would anybody put British or German on a French flag?

    Moreover, every Chinese knows that Chinese government sucks although we love our country. But it seems that many French friends here are content with your government. Now who is brain-washed?

  59. Corsicanu on December 23rd, 2008 9:03 am

    For Lemon faces : It is not completely true! France collaborated with the Nazis in 1940. In 1943 Corsica released itself only from the Nazism.

  60. Corsicanu on December 23rd, 2008 9:11 am

    FREE CORSICA ! Thanks to China to support it. Corsica wants the independence. China could help Corsica to find its freedom.

    FREE CORSICA ! FREE CORSICA ! FREE CORSICA ! FREE CORSICA ! FREE CORSICA ! FREE CORSICA ! FREE CORSICA ! FREE CORSICA ! FREE CORSICA !

  61. Corsicanu on December 23rd, 2008 9:29 am

    France, country self-proclaimed by human rights is an hypocritical nation. It defends the human rights outside of his border but to it scoffs at the human rights on its territory, it is the case in Corsica, in Euskady, in Kanaky and somewhere else. Shame in France. Free Corsica, France go home.

    Sorry for mi bad English !

  62. Japan metro noxious gas on December 29th, 2008 8:07 am

    I am a Chinese person. I don’t care whether Corsica want to independent or not.It’s none of my business. But tibet independent is something make me pain in my heart. If we let dalai lama sort person as the rights in tibet, it will do hurt tibet people. Those royals even use the bones of common tibet poor people as their materials in order to do some “religion” things. I know your french people never hate dalai lama. It is just because you didn’t see those pictures about those dirty things. You never know how they really hurt tibet people. I support china present rights in beijing. I think. their way to treat tibet people better than dalai lama. China do protects tibet culture and people. The future of tibet in china, will be more better than today. But if it is in the hands of dalai lama. hm… It will
    have enough “buddha spirit”. But the real buddha spirit shouldn’t like that. As I think. Tibet brothers and sisters suffered enough. Now, they should have the right to live better.

  63. Japanese Aum Doomsday Cult on December 29th, 2008 8:18 am

    If you think falundafa as a religion, then we can’t communicate clear. All falundafa system will tell you the same thing. It is all about the bad side of china. Yes, even it is not really the truth.

  64. peace is in the war on December 29th, 2008 11:01 pm

    I am a Chinese person. I know why. Why some people want tibet to be an independent one. Because tibet has huge nature resources. It is the source of 7 rivers. Having a lot of the costful ore. Some of the ore, can make a lot of nuclear weapons. They will think about . . . Can I have some resources in tibet ? Tibet is important in geostrategy value. Actually speaking, I doubt if they really cares about tibet people living condition and their rights. Just something like. See, I am a Chiense person. I may feel Corsica to be independent is better. Because, the weak of france makes china more powerful. China has 56 races in one great nation. That is to say. The best way to give 56 races “human rights” is to have 56 independent nation in china ? When it is done, “china” has the power to eat this 56 nations one by one. Then, there is no CHINA. You feel comfortable enough ?

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